NET Rankings News - MinnesotaSportsFan https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/tag/net-rankings/ Minnesota sports, but different Tue, 06 Feb 2024 17:47:53 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=32,height=32,fit=crop,quality=80,format=auto,onerror=redirect,metadata=none/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/cropped-cropped-MSF-favicon-1.jpg NET Rankings News - MinnesotaSportsFan https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/tag/net-rankings/ 32 32 Everything Changes for Ben Johnson’s Gophers with Win Over Michigan State Tonight https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/gophers-basketball/minnesota-gophers-need-win-vs-michigan-state-to-earn-respect/ Tue, 06 Feb 2024 16:26:01 +0000 https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/?p=47574 The Minnesota Gophers men’s basketball team is enjoying their best season of head coach Ben Johnson’s 2.5 year tenure as head coach. The Golden Gophers are exactly halfway through their 2023-24 Big Ten schedule. Their 5-5 conference record (14-7 overall) has them sitting 6th place in the Big Ten standings.

Related: Minnesota Gophers Cam Christie Earns Big Ten Freshman of the Week Honors

With 10 games still remaining, the Gophers have already collected more conference wins (5) and total wins (14) in 2023-24 than either of Johnson’s first two seasons as head coach.

No NCAA Tournament love (yet) for Minnesota Gophers

Yet… you still won’t find much, if any, Minnesota Gophers discourse surrounding the 68-team 2024 NCAA Tournament field. As of Tuesday, they stand 91st in the NET rankings and good luck finding them listed anywhere as a possible bubble team.

B1GSTANDINGSCONFERENCEOVERALL
RkTeamW-LGBPCTW-LPCTNET
1(2) Purdue10-20.83321-20.913#2
2(10) Illinois8-31.50.72717-50.773#14
3(11) Wisconsin8-31.50.72716-60.727#13
4Northwestern 6-53.50.54515-70.682#59
5Michigan State6-53.50.54514-80.636#22
6Minnesota5-540.514-70.667#91
7Nebraska 6-640.516-70.696#52
8Indiana 5-64.50.45513-90.591#103
9Maryland 5-64.50.45513-90.591#78
10Penn State5-64.50.45511-110.5#100
11Iowa 5-64.50.45513-90.591#60
12Rutgers3-760.311-100.524#104
13Ohio State3-86.50.27313-90.591#67
14Michigan2-97.50.1827-150.318#112

For example, ESPN released a new version of their ‘Bubble Watch’ feature on their subscription site (ESPN+) Tuesday morning. In it, college basketball insider John Gasaway lists teams from each conference who are considered ‘locks‘ to get in to the tourney, along with teams that ‘should be in‘ and those with ‘work to do‘.

For the Big Ten, Gasaway lists Purdue and Wisconsin as NCAA Tournament ‘locks’; Illinois and Northwestern as ‘should be in’ teams. Schools with ‘work to do’ include Michigan State and Nebraska. One team you won’t find in the Big Ten section, however, is the Minnesota Gophers.

Even though they’re ahead of Nebraska in the standings and their results on the season include wins over both the Huskers and Northwestern, both of which are named in ESPN’s feature as bubble teams that are likely in, as of today.

So, what gives? Well, Ben Johnson’s 2023-24 squad ranks all they way down at No. 91 in the NET ratings, which is widely used to determine who dances in March and who stays home or heads to the NIT Tournament instead.

Related: Minnesota Gophers Keep March Madness Hopes Alive with Huge Win at the Barn vs Northwestern

Their low NET rating is due to a rather weak 2023-24 schedule. Ben Johnson packed it early with confidence boosting non-conference matchups and his team took advantage… but home wins vs cupcake opponents don’t move the NET needle.

Not only that, but the Gophers are playing in a down Big Ten conference this season. Sometimes, the Big Ten has five to seven teams scattered throughout the AP top-25 and 10-12 teams worthy of a March Madness birth. This week, they have three (Purdue #2, Illinois #10, Wisconsin #11) in the top-25 and they’re looking like a conference that’ll be lucky to get six teams into the dance.

Huge opportunity for Ben Johnson’s Gophers vs Michigan State

NCAA Basketball: Northwestern at Minnesota Gophers
Photo: Matt Krohn – USA TODAY SportsCredit: Matt Krohn-USA TODAY Sports

But on Tuesday, the Gophers can change everything about conversations currently being had around the NCAA Tournament and which Big Ten teams belong in. Following two-straight wins over Penn State and Northwestern, Minnesota welcomes another bubble team, the Michigan State Spartans, to Williams Arena tonight.

What’s on the line? Everything that Ben Johnson and his team have been working toward all season. A win over Sparty on Tuesday would give the Gophers their first quad-1 win of the season, which would launch them up the NET rankings, and their 6th conference dub of the season, which would be good for 4th place in the Big Ten standings.

Related: Adrian Peterson’s Daughter; 8th-Grader Ari Peterson Offered by Minnesota Gophers WBB

Not only would a rosier NET picture help the way bracketologists see Minnesota this season, but they’d be impossible to ignore if they are sitting ahead of Nebraska, Northwestern and Michigan State in the conference standings, and they hold wins over all three perceived tournament teams.

So, if Ben Johnson and the 2023-24 Minnesota Gophers men’s basketball team wants more respect on its name, when national talking heads start March Madness conversations; if they want more run in the local papers and on local sports sites (like MSF) then they need to take care of business tonight at the Barn. They win tonight, and everybody will start paying attention.

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Despite All the Winning, Gophers MBB Struggling in Rankings https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/gophers-basketball/gophers-mbb-struggling-in-rankings/ Tue, 09 Jan 2024 20:39:40 +0000 https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/?p=46470 Under the guidance of Ben Johnson, the Golden Gophers men’s basketball team has had an impressive start to the 2023-’24 season. With a record of 12-3 and a 3-1 standing in Big Ten play, they’re on a seven-game winning streak as conference play is heating back up.

Guys like Mike Mitchell Jr., Elijah Hawkins and Pharrel Payne have all stepped up and become major contributors next to star big man Dawson Garcia and blossoming freshman, Cam Christie.

Related: Ben Johnson Found a Future Star in True Freshman Cam Christie

Minnesota Gophers vs NET and KenPom rankings

But despite Minnesota’s improved play on both ends of the floor and the wins they’ve piled up early in the season, they’re having troubles climbing up the various ranking systems in college basketball, currently sitting 88 in the NCAA NET Rankings and 78 in the KenPom.

NET RankingsKenPom Rankings
84. USC (8-7)74. Saint Joseph’s (10-4)
85. Georgia (11-3)75. Liberty (11-5)
86. Drake (11-3)76. James Madison (14-1)
87. Akron (8-4)77. UC Irvine (11-5)
88. Minnesota (12-3)78. Minnesota (12-3)
89. Cornell (9-3)79. Maryland (9-6)
90. Duquesne (8-5)80. Syracuse (10-4)
91. App State (9-4)81. Stanford (7-7)
92. Michigan (6-9)82. Boston College (10-4)

Both the NET and KenPom rankings are calculated through advanced statistics and efficiency. The NET keys on beating good teams, especially on the road, and blowing out bad teams. On top of winning games, you need to have a good NET efficiency rating.

Obviously, these rankings aren’t perfect but the fact that they both have the Gophers in the same ballpark tells the story of why they still have a lot of mountain to climb, if they want to be considered an NCAA Tournament team.

Luckily for Minnesota, there is plenty of time to raise their ranking, and while their schedule has been light to this point, they’ll have plenty of opportunities vs better competition throughout the rest of their Big Ten schedule.

What are the experts saying?

One of the most well-known and highly regarded voices in Big Ten basketball is Andy Katz (Big Ten Network), who updates his own non-algorithm based rankings throughout the season. On Tuesday, Katz placed the Gophers as his 9th best Big Ten team, as of today.

9th seems a bit low, especially since the Gophers’ 3-1 conference record, not to mention they’re ranked behind Nebraska (6th), despite already beating them earlier this season. The other two Big Ten opponents that Minnesota has beaten this season, Maryland (11) and Michigan (14th) sit at or near the bottom of Katz’ rankings.

Related: Gophers Resume Big Ten Play with Win Over Wolverines in Ann Arbor

The most well-known bracketologist in college basketball is Joe Lunardi, (ESPN). In Lunardi’s latest bracket projections, he has only six Big Ten teams getting into the NCAA Tournament, with Nebraska being his “second team out”.

Beating Nebraska seems to be the biggest thing the Gophers currently have going for their March Madness resume and could end up being the early victory that helps them eventually get in.

Related: Gophers MBB Grabs Another Early Season Big Ten Win vs Maryland

Why are the Gophers low in rankings and how will they climb?

The primary reason for the Gophers’ relatively low ranking at the start of the season is likely due to their limited exposure to true road games, having played only two so far this season (1-1), with a total point differential of -8.

Success in away games holds significant weight in college basketball, especially if the victories come with a substantial point margin. As the Gophers progress through the Big Ten season, they face a stretch of eight out of their last 16 games on the road.

While maintaining their home court advantage is crucial, the key to making significant strides in the rankings is by beating good teams (preferably on the road) and securing double-digit victories vs lesser competition.

But again, the Minnesota Gophers play in the Big Ten and their conference season is only 5 games old. If they win more games than they lose, they will have a chance at dancing. If they can win the games they should, and steal some that they shouldn’t, they’ve set themselves up early to be a lock.

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Tue, 09 Jan 2024 14:39:44 +0000 Minnesota Gophers Basketball
No Respect in Polls/Rankings for Gophers MBB https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/gophers-basketball/no-respect-in-polls-rankings-for-minnesota-gophers-mbb/ Wed, 15 Dec 2021 18:06:56 +0000 https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/?p=37478 The early Big Ten season was supposed to be a measuring stick for the new Minnesota Golden Gophers men’s basketball team. Two games vs conference powers like Michigan State and Michigan was supposed to be a big prove-it type stretch for rookie head coach Ben Johnson and a turned over Gophers team that had looked much better than expected to start 2021-22.

So when they hung with #19 Michigan State last week at The Barn, ultimately losing 67-75, then followed that up on Saturday with a 75-65 victory over Michigan in Ann Arbor, many fans (myself included) thought the 9-1 Gophers had passed a pretty significant test.

But then the AP and USA Today top-25 polls came out on Monday and, outside of a few votes, Minnesota was nowhere to be found. Michigan State, on the other hand, jumped up seven spots in the AP and eight spots in the USA Today. Sparty now ranks #12 in both polls thanks to wins over the Gophers and 5-5 (0-2) Penn State.

The Minnesota Gophers went from 0 AP Poll votes last week, to 3 votes on Monday. Michigan, the 6-4 Big Ten team that Minnesota defeated last week, got 8 votes. You need north of 150 votes to have any chance of cracking the top-25. The Gophers were already getting a little love last week (Dec. 6) in the USA Today Coaches Poll, receiving 7 votes. The problem? They got the same exact amount this week, as if those games vs the Spartans and Wolverines meant nothing.

Hurt by Victory

So the AP and Coaches Polls only come out once per week. Other ranking systems and polls that the college basketball world trusts update daily. Ben Johnson’s Gophers are seeing more of the same disrespect with those. In fact, all of the daily updated polls people care about actually dropped Minnesota down following their win on Tuesday night over Texas A&M Corpus Christi.

The 9-1 Islanders came to The Barn and the Gophers jumped on them right from the tip, taking a 20-point lead into halftime. It looked like a route in the making, even midway through the second half. But Minnesota committed 28 total turnovers, many of which came in the second half, allowing TAMU-CC to cut the lead to single digits at the finish line.

The maroon and gold had been one of the best offenses in the country in the turnover department, averaging just 7.8 per game through nine games. But coughing up the basketball was the obvious reason they couldn’t put the Islanders away last night. Still, the final score of 79-71 projected a game that was much closer than what actually unfolded in reality, which was a matchup that Minnesota mostly dominated.

A win is (not just) a win

So let’s get back to the daily updated polls and rankings mentioned above. They hated Tuesday’s win. The NET Rankings, the system recently created by the NCAA to help the Tournament Committee make their March selections, dropped Minnesota from #35 to #36 after the victory. If you feel slighted by that, the rest of this blog won’t make you any happier.

All three of the other most-widely used polls and ranking systems also dropped the Gophers after their win over Texas A&M-CC yesterday. The Massey rankings dropped them from at #30 to #33. KenPom and ESPN BPI must have forgotten that Minnesota has a basketball team, ranking them #69 and #66 respectively before the win and dropping them down to #74 and #70 after.

I know that other teams have played more difficult schedules than what the Gophers have, but this is no longer an untested team. The four games they played before Tuesday were against ACC, SEC and Big Ten competition. Three of them, Michigan St., Michigan and Mississippi St. are NCAA Tournament caliber. They beat two of them, both of which rank ahead of the Gophers in some of the polls above.

It won’t matter.

At the end of the year, where the Minnesota Gophers ranked in the middle of December won’t matter. This team plays in the deepest conference in the nation. When Big Ten play resumes at the beginning of the new year, there will be plenty of good competition to go around.

If Ben Johnson and his new squad can win most of their games at Williams Arena and beat struggling teams on the road, they’ll set themselves up to dance when it’s all over. And dancing in March is something NOBODY would’ve tried selling you a month ago.

Eric Strack | Minnesota Sports Fan

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Wed, 15 Dec 2021 13:09:07 +0000 Minnesota Gophers Basketball
First NCAA NET Rankings of 2020-21 Forgot Minnesota https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/gophers-basketball/first-ncaa-net-rankings-2020-21-forgot-minnesota-gophers/ https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/gophers-basketball/first-ncaa-net-rankings-2020-21-forgot-minnesota-gophers/#respond Mon, 04 Jan 2021 15:17:08 +0000 https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/?p=32577

Monday marked a huge day in the NCAA Men’s Basketball calendar. It’s the first release of the NET Rankings, a formula-based model of judging college basketball teams that was developed by the NCAA. The 2020-21 debut list either forgot about the Minnesota Gophers or deeply disrespected them.

The NET Rankings replaced the RPI a few years ago but somebody must have input the wrong data this week for Minnesota. How else do you explain Pitino’s Gophers debuting at #43 in the nation, 22 spots lower than last week’s AP ranking.



Look at some of the teams that landed in the top-25. Pitino’s Gophers beat Iowa on Christmas Day, beat Saint Louis in the non-conference and DOMINATED Ohio State just last night, which the NET Rankings website claims to include in its formula.

I didn’t even know Colgate had a minty fresh college campus and who would have thought that Liam Robbins made a HUGE mistake in transferring out of top-20 Drake for such a shitty basketball school like Minnesota.

Other rankings

Better known, eye-test college basketball polls (AP, Coaches) will update later today but the Gophers should climb both. They won 2 of 3 games this week and all three were against ranked opponents. Being dominated at the Kohl Center by #6 Wisconsin will hold them from blazing up lists, however.

The Minnesota Gophers sits at #23 in the KenPom rankings, #15 in the Massey Rankings and #27 by TeamRanking.com. Only the ESPN BPI has the Gophers ranked that low. If you your best comparison is ESPN BPI… then you need a new formula.

My man Jeff Goodman (Stadium.com) gets it.



Eric Strack | Minnesota Sports Fan

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